Imagine Breaker Permission Post

[illusionbreaker]

The simplest explanation for Imagine Breaker is that it's an ability that negates anything supernatural. Because of the nature of this ability and how it interacts with the supernatural, I've created this permission post for its more troublesome traits.

• Subconscious Fear: Imagine Breaker is capable of inflicting fear upon nearby supernatural beings. It manifests as a gut instinct that will warn you to keep your distance and is similar to the kind of feeling you'll probably get when standing at the very edge of a cliff. This seems to primarily effect beings who either don't have a flesh and blood body of their own (Ex: Energy Being. Anything possessing a body that isn't theirs.) or is being kept alive by something decisively supernatural.


• Death: Imagine Breaker possesses the potential to kill and/or destroy supernatural beings upon touch. If you want your character to be affected, but don't want the full lethal consequences, we can think up of a more appropriate affect that fits your character better.


• Destruction of Magical Items: Exactly what the title says. I typically limit this to only temporary nullification of the item's effect unless you're fine with allowing the full consequences of having said item destroyed.

Please feel free to ask any additional questions or concerns you have about Imagine Breaker.

Comments

[alethiological]

Sup, I already know most of the nonsense with his normal-ification powers, but lets talk brief shop. Specifically the Destruction of Magical Items part I guess.

So the magical item has a body and the body is a sentient being with a personality and alive and etc. Magical Index as a series already deals with this, gestures at the titular Index. Will is both a person and a pile of an angry novelist's letters. As far as canon, Seacats treats magical beings in the vein of "prove that person doesn't exist", and if you prove it poof, now they're paperweights. But at the same time, we have multiple examples of magical beings still being sentient and alive and aware in their unmoving paperweight bodies, so they only die when actually disproven? And also you can be multiple concepts at once??? Umineko is weird.

Anyway. Here's where my knowledge runs out: is Imagine Breaker permanent? Like, "you are depowered for X minutes" or "you are Depowered, End Of Argument".

Lbr will exploding into a pile of papers on an accidental pat is hilarious and I would love to do it at least once for a gag, but I don't want to take a death for a shitpost. Yet. If IB is only active during physical contact/a short time after, he'd still count as "alive". If IB is considered a permanent de-powering, it'd be considered a death. Where's the coin flip land on this?

[illusionbreaker]

So the magical item has a body and the body is a sentient being with a personality and alive and etc. Magical Index as a series already deals with this, gestures at the titular Index.

Puts on nerd glasses

There are sentient magical items in the series, but Index isn't one of them.

Anyway. Here's where my knowledge runs out: is Imagine Breaker permanent? Like, "you are depowered for X minutes" or "you are Depowered, End Of Argument".

The canon answer is "you are Depowered, End Of Argument", but it's not absolute and there are two counters;

- Getting a constant stream of mana / energy / bs. IB can be overwhelmed if a supernatural phenomenon can replenish itself faster then what IB can delete. This, however, doesn't really seem to apply to physical magical items though.

- Amputation. A weird bio magictech creature managed to save itself by cutting off its own limb right after Touma bad touched it.

Its tentacles were thicker than steel beams and they reached out to grab and twist apart the boy’s body.

“Oooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!?”

As soon as a tentacle wrapped around him and lifted him up, Kamijou reflexively used his right hand to punch the translucent appendage.

Whatever else it could do, this Element could be stopped with Imagine Breaker.

But then the entire tentacle fell off at the base.

No, had it been cut away to prevent his power from propagating to the rest of it!?

So yeah, under canon rules, unless he's quick enough to server a part of himself, he ded. He's comparable to Mathers, who was technically a pile of tarot cards. The guy was being powered by the Earth itself and still didn't want to risk getting touched by Touma.

That being said, we can make it temporary thing. Maybe the power of the novelist's sheer rage keeps him alive or something. IDK. It's whatever you want or think would be interesting.

[alethiological]

> There are sentient magical items in the series, but Index isn't one of them.
god dammit the one thing i thought i knew has been wrong this whole time I AM A SHAM. I really need to read the novels now that they're translated.

And tbh if anything kept him alive through IB, it'd probably be how mad Van Dine gets over nothing. The man dropped his whole life and took up fiction writing because he read a Sherlock novel, thought it sucked and spent the rest of his days calling Doyle a hack anywhere he could. DECADES of mad, over one book. The man was unhinged.

THAT SAID I will take the "keep it permanent/counting as a death" option and just ask for no right hand touchy unless we chat first. Idk it's dumb in writing but for me it always feels wrong to disrespect the dangerous reality-erasing power when the main point is it's supposed to be dangerous and reality-erasing. But if I ever want to die for a meme, I know who I'm calling.